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From: shoppa@alph02.triumf.ca (Tim Shoppa)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc,vmsnet.pdp-11,alt.sys.pdp11
Subject: Re: Kermit for micro/rsx v3.1 base level 24C
Date: 12 Jul 1997 16:18:15 GMT
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In article <CMM.0.90.4.868647843.fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>,
Kermit Software Support <kermit-support@columbia.edu> wrote:
>Nothing is ever as simple as we'd like it to be. As you can see, we have
>quite a lot of Kermit-11 binaries in the kermit/bin area. The most sense I
>have ever been able to make out of them is as follows (from the kermit/bin
>READ.ME file):
>
> k11.tsk - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 for RSTS/E 8.0 or later
> k11nrs.tsk - Ditto, but not linked with RMSRES
> k11id.tsk - Ditto, but uses I&D space
> k11idm.tsk - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 for RSX11M+ or Micro/RSX
> k11pos.tsk - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 for RSX11M+, Micro/RSX, or P/OS
> k11rsx.tsk - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 for RSX, not linked with RMSRES
> k11sml.tsk - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 RSX11M, small executable, tightly overlaid
> k11xm.sav - PDP-11 Kermit 3.60 for RT11 XM and TSX+
>
>(Note: of these, only the RSX versions are current -- there are new sets of
>files for RT and RSTS.)
>
>I'd love to see the RSX version updated, and there is definitely some strong
>(but sporadic) interest in having a fixed-up and updated version, but to date
>nobody has been able to do the job. I'm copying this to the DEC newsgroup
>in case it turns up any hitherto unknown RSX aficionados.
I've occasionally thought about going in and making the improvements
myself, but the main thing that has held me back is that I have access
to only a few RSX11M and 11M+ versions, none of which is particularly
recent, so it'd be difficult for me to build any binaries which I could
guarantee to work on other systems. At one
time wasn't there a IAS binary available, too?
Another obstacle for me is that I know that I'd never do as good a job
as Billy Yodelman's been doing in maintaining and upgrading KRT for
RT-11 and (now) RSTS.
Johnny Billquist has made important patches to the RSX version of
K11, and the source code patches are available by anonymous ftp
from ftp.update.uu.se in /pub/pdp11. I don't know if he has any
binaries available for ftp.
The most common request I receive for RSX Kermit is for a version that
runs on RSX-11M V3.0 or thereabouts. It seems that all of the existing
K11 RSX implementations depend on features that came out about the time
of RSX-11M V4.0.
Tim. (shoppa@triumf.ca)